Posted at 10:20 on March 5th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Admin Reborn Gumby Posts: 11097 | Quote: I have KaZaA Lite, though, so no spyware there Uhu - dream on ----- Now you see the violence inherent in the system! |
Posted at 11:55 on March 5th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Prof Gumby Posts: 607 | So you're saying there's spyware in Kazaa Lite? Well then I'm kind of glad I quit using it - I always presumed it was really spyware-free though... ----- "One Very Important Thought" |
Posted at 12:10 on March 5th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Dr Gumby Posts: 268 | I've scanned it with SpyBot Search and Destroy, AdAware, and many others. There is no spyware. There's also no advertisements, but that's easy to pull off. ----- Mock ugly people. Praise ugly goats. |
Posted at 12:41 on March 5th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Admin Reborn Gumby Posts: 11097 | I'm not saying it necessarily does, because I can't prove it. I have what I'd call 'serious doubts' though. Mainly because of two observations: 1. Based on common sense: Why would someone release two programs which offer the same functionality and run on the same platform, both being free, with the only difference that one has spyware and the other doesn't? Wouldn't that be a bit contraproductive? 2. Based on the FAQ I read on their site: There, it said something along the lines of (can't confirm it with the site being down) "Kazaa Lite installs file blablabla to your hard drive. This might be recognized by so-called 'spyware blockers' as spyware. It is not. Don't delete this file, it is necessary to run the program." If that's not fishy, I don't know what is.... ----- Now you see the violence inherent in the system! |
Posted at 13:32 on March 5th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Dr Gumby Posts: 268 | 1. KaZaA didn't release KaZaA Lite. It was hacked by some people who liked the concept but not the spyware. Heh, it's even more illegal than the normal KaZaA in a way. 2. Beats me.... ----- Mock ugly people. Praise ugly goats. |
Posted at 13:38 on March 5th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Admin Reborn Gumby Posts: 11097 | 1. Doesn't matter, because then, the question is why the creators of the 'real' Kazaa let the 'light' version exist. Since file sharing applications are not illegal, they have full rights to their creation and could sue the asses of the 'hackers' if they wanted. Why don't they? ----- Now you see the violence inherent in the system! |
Posted at 15:03 on March 5th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Dr Gumby Posts: 268 | They probably just think of it as more competetion, such as Blubster, WinMX, etc, etc. ----- Mock ugly people. Praise ugly goats. |
Posted at 16:02 on March 5th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Admin Reborn Gumby Posts: 11097 | Yes, and if someone cracks the Windows source code and rips it off the spyware and backdoors, Microsoft will certainly see it as competition, too. ----- Now you see the violence inherent in the system! |
Posted at 00:32 on March 6th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Prof Gumby Posts: 488 | I'm not sure if I remember well, but aren't the producers of Kazaa those people who've fight to the end to keep their product free and legal but lost in court? If I am right and I was them, I would be more than happy to allow (if not encourage) such things to continue... ----- I am on a hot streak... Litterally. |
Posted at 03:26 on March 6th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Admin Reborn Gumby Posts: 11097 | You might be thinking of Napster there... ----- Now you see the violence inherent in the system! |
Posted at 16:30 on March 6th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Prof Gumby Posts: 421 | Eagle Kazaa started in Australia and got sued so they moved ownership to some small Pacific island form which they assumed they wouldn't be sued. I'm pretty sure they ended up in court again though. ----- Not all That Glitters Is Gold, Not All Those Who Wander Are Lost. |
Posted at 16:38 on March 6th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Dr Gumby Posts: 268 | They haven't been closed down yet, though. ----- Mock ugly people. Praise ugly goats. |
Posted at 00:40 on March 7th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Prof Gumby Posts: 488 | I think Mr Creosote is right with Napster. However, as I can read, it seems to be quite similar. ----- I am on a hot streak... Litterally. |
Posted at 03:51 on March 7th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Admin Reborn Gumby Posts: 11097 | It seems this is the fate of every popular file sharing network - just that the companies always react way too late and that there are always several other programs/networks already waiting to replace the closed ones - what a waste of time for everyone... ----- Now you see the violence inherent in the system! |
Posted at 10:29 on March 7th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Prof Gumby Posts: 488 | Well, history proven quite well that there is always a certain resistance when freedom is restricted. Personnaly, even if they would produce a legal file sharing program that is very cheap and easy of access (which we all know will never exist without freedom resctrictions), pirates will always exist. The only difference is that there would be way less than we used to see right now. ----- I am on a hot streak... Litterally. |
Posted at 10:52 on March 7th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Dr Gumby Posts: 268 | Quote: Posted by Eagle of Fire at 08:40 on March, 7th 2003: It is similar, except in KaZaA you can share more than just music. You can also share videos, images, software, and documents...instead of just the music companies hating KaZaA, like it was with Napster, everybody hates it.I think Mr Creosote is right with Napster. However, as I can read, it seems to be quite similar. ----- Mock ugly people. Praise ugly goats. |
Posted at 12:50 on March 7th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Prof Gumby Posts: 488 | I am sure the users like it fine, don't you agree? ----- I am on a hot streak... Litterally. |
Posted at 14:13 on March 7th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Admin Reborn Gumby Posts: 11097 | I don't know how Kazaa works, but any program like this which doesn't work with central servers, but relies fully on direct connections between the users is impossible to shut down. The software is legal anyway, Napster only got busted because all the illegal material for which the users 'misused' the program went through their servers. Networks like Gnutella don't have that problem. If more users would just understand this... ----- Now you see the violence inherent in the system! |
Posted at 17:26 on March 7th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Prof Gumby Posts: 421 | I'm pretty sure Kazaa uses the same system as Gnutella. Anyway as quick as you shut down one, ten more pop up to replece it, look what happened after napster left. ----- Not all That Glitters Is Gold, Not All Those Who Wander Are Lost. |
Posted at 17:31 on March 7th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Dr Gumby Posts: 268 | No, I think gnutella is on a different server. I do know, however, that KaZaA shares the same server as Grockster, which came out before KaZaA and doesn't have any spyware. The website where you download it is now defunct, though. ----- Mock ugly people. Praise ugly goats. |