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I've gone Opera

Posted at 17:40 on March 25th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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I've done it. I've switched to Opera. Mostly because IE has some many #$^^@! sercurity holes and saves every damn picture you see on the web, no matter how much cache space one sets. Also, IE kept bogging down badly because a virus kept entering it, one that liked to type in boxes such as this by itself (Just commas and the word "if". Bugger.). So here I am, my first post in Opera.
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Posted at 22:52 on March 25th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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I haven't tried the latest version of Opera yet, but I'm pretty sure it's better than Internet Explorer.

Yesterday I switched to Phoenix 0.5, mainly because I've never used most of Mozilla's components (mail/news, adress book, IRC), and they were useless for me. Thus, I'm using Phoenix as a "browser only" vesion of Mozilla right now, especially since I applied a theme that's similar to the Mozilla look. Let's see if it will stand the test. ;)

Edit: As for Internet Explorer security issues, does anyone have further information about the "index.dat" file that is located in the windows/cookies directory? It's just there and its size grows each time you're using Internet Explorer. Furthermore, it can't be deleted by common means from a Windows OS. It's possible to delete it while booting though, but it will be created again automatically. Very suspicious...

Edited by Tapuak at 07:04 on March, 26th 2003
Posted at 01:45 on March 26th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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If I remeber correctly, the index.dat file is an index for all of your cookies. I think IE uses it for faster access to cookies, but I'm not 100% sure.
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Posted at 02:32 on March 26th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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I've upgraded to the latest Opera (6.12) recently, too, and I'm really happy with it :) I still love the 'Quick Preferences', a feature which has yet to be copied or beaten by any other browser.

As for Phoenix, I'm using it quite a lot, too. The 'Breeze' skin is the best though: fast, small, good looking :P
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Posted at 05:15 on March 26th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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Congratulations! A wise decision, switching to Opera. Opera 7.x still sucks, but they are getting there :)
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Posted at 06:16 on March 28th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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I use Phoenix 0.5 on my 'old' computer too, but I haven't been keeping up with recent builds; does it have a decent replacement for the Mozilla password manager yet? It will supposedly someday include 'Satchel' as a replacement, but in the meantime, I think it's really lame having a browser capable of saving passwords but with no decent way to manage them.

This is all my fault really, I should've never gotten hooked to that password manager in the first place. :(
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Posted at 06:32 on March 28th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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I don't use a password manager. I keep post-it notes with my passwords attached to the edges of my monitor. ;)
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Posted at 07:21 on March 28th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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If I remeber correctly, the index.dat file is an index for all of your cookies. I think IE uses it for faster access to cookies, but I'm not 100% sure.


If it really was an index of all cookies, it's just strange that the file size seems to grow even after deleting all cookies. That would mean it contains an index of all cookies you've ever had on your computer. Another reason for not using this browser. ;)

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I use Phoenix 0.5 on my 'old' computer too, but I haven't been keeping up with recent builds; does it have a decent replacement for the Mozilla password manager yet?


As far as I can see, it doesn't have a password manager. However, I call it an advantage as I never used the Mozilla password manager anyway. ;)
Posted at 09:48 on March 28th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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Saving passwords through browser is insecure and leads to severe conflicts with cookies - I always turn it off.
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Posted at 21:42 on March 28th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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Okay, password manager turned off at home... I'll probably just delete and reinstall Phoenix on my other PC monday, that should get rid of those unwanted saved passwords.
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Posted at 13:57 on March 29th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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Hahaha. I just found out WHY my internet explorer was bogging down so much, to the point where typing started to lag, or it just crashed altogether.

Microsoft
Service Pack 1

That's right, I got an "automatic update" for Service Pack 1, and the security code, and memory allocation got so messed up it brings your system to a crawl. Now they are scrambling to try and fix.

Too late, I love my Opera.
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Posted at 14:53 on March 29th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete | Delete Attachment
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Yep, the index.dat file keeps records of your cookies, history, etc indefinitely, even after the files it keeps a record of have been deleted. There are some programs that will delete the index.dat files for you (there are 3 of them, one in the cookies folder, one in history, and one in the temp files folder).

MC- The multizilla addon for mozilla has a quick prefs feature, in fact i find it more useful than opera's. Here's a screencap of it-
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Posted at 11:17 on March 30th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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The multizilla addon for mozilla has a quick prefs feature, in fact i find it more useful than opera's. Here's a screencap of it-
Wow - that's the first time someone could actually tell me some actual use of this 'Multizilla' thingy! I can't find this menu there, but I'm sure I only didn't look closely enough... and not that I'll ever use it, because Mozilla is way too slow :P
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Posted at 17:15 on March 30th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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It is pretty pointless having a tabs addon when mozilla itself is tabbed.
I love the quick prefs menu. Multizilla also adss a few other features that I use, but i can remember what all features are from mozilla and which ones are from multizilla.
To enable the quick prefs menu, go into prefs->multizilla->buttons There are 3 different checkboxes for the quick prefs, each one turns it on in a different toolbar. (You can have any 1, 2, or all 3 turned on at once.) Once it's turned on, the quick prefs button is a yellow wrench.
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Posted at 02:02 on March 31st, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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I don't even have a 'Multizilla' menu in the preferences. Whatever - it doesn't matter, wouldn't use it anyway.
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Posted at 06:27 on March 31st, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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Posted by Tuss at 21:57 on March, 29th 2003:

Hahaha. I just found out WHY my internet explorer was bogging down so much, to the point where typing started to lag, or it just crashed altogether.

Microsoft
Service Pack 1

That's right, I got an "automatic update" for Service Pack 1, and the security code, and memory allocation got so messed up it brings your system to a crawl. Now they are scrambling to try and fix.

Too late, I love my Opera.

Yeah, I noticed an article on Slashdot the other day, about the SP1 totally messing up memory management. Supposedly, Microsoft will fix it in SP2.
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Posted at 12:50 on March 31st, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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Posted by Mr Creosote at 10:02 on March, 31st 2003:

I don't even have a 'Multizilla' menu in the preferences. Whatever - it doesn't matter, wouldn't use it anyway.


1) Multizilla has to be installed after installing mozilla, it doesn't come with moz.
2) If you did install multizilla, and still don't have a multizilla section in your prefs menu, then something went wrong with the install.

One of the things I like best about mozilla is the ability to middle click links to open them in background tabs. Yes, you can achieve that in opera using mouse gestures, but those gestures are such a pain to get to work right, a single click is a hell of a lot easier.
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Posted at 12:53 on March 31st, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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None of the two points applies to me, because I have installed it (Come on - did you really think I'm that stupid? I'm stupid for sure, but that much?) and the installation worked (as I can easily see from the 'pseudo-enhanced' browser.
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Posted at 13:04 on March 31st, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete | Delete Attachment
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Well, either something went wrong with the install, or you're overlooking the multizilla menu. The menu appears after multizilla is installed. The fact that some of the features are appearing doesn't mean much, it could have only gotten partially installed.
Here's a screencap of the menu-

[edit] As far as the "that stupid" part, I'm used to dealing with people that can't even find the main options menu in programs, let alone relize that multizilla is a seperate prog. :-

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Posted at 13:09 on March 31st, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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Hmm... my Preferences menu stops with "Offline...". Whatever.
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