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Running Civ 1 /w Win98-XP

Posted at 04:24 on June 22nd, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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What I mean is, since I've become accustomed to playing similar games of this genre with full sound, I'm not going to adjust well to running Civ1 without it. If you don't understand that, I don't know what to tell you. I guess the thing you don't understand is that not everyone is LIKE YOU.

Nobody is a broad brush to paint. I was visiting the Civilization Fanatics website earlier and it appears quite a few people have the same problem. It has more to do with my two month old computer than my incompetancy.

We're all teenagers here ... except me.
Posted at 04:46 on June 22nd, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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errr, I havent been a teenager since 1994.

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It has more to do with my two month old computer than my incompetancy


If your two month old computer is running XP or 98 then it has little to do with the computer, because the computer is more than capable of doing what you want.
Posted at 04:54 on June 22nd, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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If your two month old computer is running XP or 98 then it has little to do with the computer, because the computer is more than capable of doing what you want.


So you're saying that I should be able run Civ1 with full sound and everything just fine? I see.
Even though it was originally programmed for DOS, I'll take your word for it.

And what sort of computer are you using Fretz?
Posted at 05:04 on June 22nd, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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Posted by A E I at 12:54 on June, 22nd 2003:

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If your two month old computer is running XP or 98 then it has little to do with the computer, because the computer is more than capable of doing what you want.


So you're saying that I should be able run Civ1 with full sound and everything just fine? I see.
Even though it was originally programmed for DOS, I'll take your word for it.


More or less yes, it may take a little tweaking here or there. Every Windows OS after 95 has come with a perfectly good DOS emulator. So good in fact it even emulates the bugs perfectly.

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And what sort of computer are you using Fretz?


Gigabyte 7Z motherboard, AMD 800 Duron, 512MB ram, geforce 4mx 440, XP Pro.
Posted at 05:11 on June 22nd, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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More or less yes, it may take a little tweaking here or there. Every Windows OS after 95 has come with a perfectly good DOS emulator. So good in fact it even emulates the bugs perfectly.


That's news to me. Maybe I should try DOSbox then.

Does your copy of Civ have an .exe program to enable you to change your IRQ? I was thinking that could be the problem, since mine is currently set at 5. If Civ doesn't automatically detect that could certainly be it.

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Gigabyte 7Z motherboard, AMD 800 Duron, 512MB ram, geforce 4mx 440, XP Pro.


You probably have DOS drivers for your sound card
though, right?
Posted at 10:37 on June 22nd, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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A.E.I., I am not even concerned by your post, yet I can do little but to feel insulted. 90% of this board is 20 and up, what's the deal going insulting everyone?

Frankly, I don't even understand why you are still juggling to get the sound on Civilization. It's an old game for God sake! There is no sound effects that add anything to the game. I know, I played that game for like 6 years. And I still prefer PC speakers over Sound Blaster.

Anyways, if you didn't knew yet Mr Creosote have an extremely insighful page about how to run old DOS games, and is available here.
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Posted at 10:50 on June 22nd, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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Posted by A E I at 13:11 on June, 22nd 2003:

Does your copy of Civ have an .exe program to enable you to change your IRQ?


No, If i needed to alter the interrupts then I would do that via the autoexec file, but there is no need.

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You probably have DOS drivers for your sound card
though, right?


Yes, they are available for most modern and legacy soundblaster cards. My PC has an onboard Creative AudioPCI and it works a dream. The onboard sound uses IRQ 10.
Posted at 13:10 on June 22nd, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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You probably have DOS drivers for your sound card
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Yes, they are available for most modern and legacy soundblaster cards. My PC has an onboard Creative AudioPCI and it works a dream. The onboard sound uses IRQ 10.[/quote]

I'm surprised DOS drivers are supported for most modern sound cards, or do you just mean soundblaster brands?
Posted at 13:21 on June 22nd, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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Posted by Eagle of Fire at 18:37 on June, 22nd 2003:

A.E.I., I am not even concerned by your post, yet I can do little but to feel insulted. 90% of this board is 20 and up, what's the deal going insulting everyone?


Well, that's just it. I come here to post a message about my predictament and I'm told it's irrelevant. You've already expressed your apathy so it's a pretty futile situation isn't it?


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Frankly, I don't even understand why you are still juggling to get the sound on Civilization. It's an old game for God sake! There is no sound effects that add anything to the game. I know, I played that game for like 6 years. And I still prefer PC speakers over Sound Blaster.


That's an interesting taste you have there. Granted for this game it might not add much, but it's still preferable to me than nothing or having to put up with bleeps and blops (which I have to turn on BTW in order for the timing in
the game to work properly).

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Anyways, if you didn't knew yet Mr Creosote have an extremely insighful page about how to run old DOS games, and is available here.


OK, thanks.
Posted at 14:51 on June 22nd, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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Posted by A E I at 21:10 on June, 22nd 2003:

I'm surprised DOS drivers are supported for most modern sound cards, or do you just mean soundblaster brands?

Yes, most of the stuff creative have made there are dos drivers around for.

Edited by fretz at 22:56 on June, 22nd 2003
Posted at 15:23 on June 22nd, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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Yes, most of the stuff creative have made there are dos drivers around for.


I have SoundMax Audio, so I'm out of luck there.
Anyway, this is one reason why I'm tired of meddling around with old games. I use to tinker my life away ... but no longer.
Posted at 23:39 on June 30th, 2003 | Quote | Edit | Delete
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I love Civ, it is probably my favourite game of them all. Personally I don't see any need for the sound, I normally play it with the sound turned off anyway.
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