Posted at 05:27 on September 17th, 2002 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Prof Gumby Posts: 432 | Does anyone know of a text-to-html converter that recognises tables? And can anyone tell me if there is such a thing as a view-source-button disabling script? thanks! :penguin: ----- If it ain't broken, you're not trying hard enough. |
Posted at 07:16 on September 17th, 2002 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Admin Reborn Gumby Posts: 11097 | 1. What 'tables' should it recognize in text? 2. A working one doesn't exist. And you know what I think of that anyway ----- Now you see the violence inherent in the system! |
Posted at 09:08 on September 17th, 2002 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Retired Gumby Posts: 964 | Most people who want to hide their source code (for what resons ever) use a "right click disabled" script, which is highly annoying and does not effect anything else but trouble. In short, there is no way to deactivate viewing it. I don't see the purpose of hiding the source code anyway. |
Posted at 09:13 on September 17th, 2002 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Admin Reborn Gumby Posts: 11097 | And those 'no-right-click' scripts don't work in Opera anyway ----- Now you see the violence inherent in the system! |
Posted at 09:25 on September 17th, 2002 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Retired Gumby Posts: 964 | Quote: Does anyone know of a text-to-html converter that recognises tables? Microsoft Word. However, if you really want to use it, you have to find a way to hide your source code indeed. |
Posted at 12:23 on September 17th, 2002 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Retired Gumby Posts: 740 | Those anit-right-click scripts ONLY work in IE, and even then there are ways around them (such as turning off javascript, refreshing, then right clicking, then turning it back on when you're done). And of course if the visitor has js already turned off, they won't even know that you're using that script. It's amusing seeing those scripts in action in mozilla, you do get the alert box saying that right clicking is disabled, but you also get the right clik menu right beside it. They should change the text in the alert box to say 'ignore that menu behind the curtain, it's only your imagination'. ----- At the end of the day, you're left with a bent fork & a pissed off rhino. |
Posted at 02:40 on September 18th, 2002 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Prof Gumby Posts: 432 | hmmm, strange, my netscape also shows the no-right-click message. My primary use for the no-right-click script is to annoy people who want to link to my cheats directly. It will not stop determined people, but might discourage some. The tables I need recognised are my cheats tables. Somehow, the idea of creating about 400 tables manually if there is a better way doesn't seem like that much fun...I'd rather spend some time adding new content... ----- If it ain't broken, you're not trying hard enough. |
Posted at 02:45 on September 18th, 2002 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Admin Reborn Gumby Posts: 11097 | If your cheats are in html then and you're still using frames, why not use a simple Javascript to determine if the page itself is the topmost reference (i.e. shown without frames) and if it is, forward them to your front page? If you don't plan to continue using frames, you can try a similar script working with referrers which is not 100% 'safe', but works fine, too. ----- Now you see the violence inherent in the system! |
Posted at 10:00 on September 18th, 2002 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Retired Gumby Posts: 740 | Hey Johann, your site doesn't work in mozilla or k-meleon (both of which use the gecko engine). The only things that show up in the navigation frame are the little pic of the penguin and the 'home' button. All the buttons show up in IE and opera, but not mozilla/k-meleon. It doesn't even show that much in netscape6. btw What's supposed to be in the top frame? I'm assuming it's an ad since I'm only seeing a blank frame. Edited by Cypherswipe at 12:18 on September, 18th 2002 ----- At the end of the day, you're left with a bent fork & a pissed off rhino. |
Posted at 10:14 on September 18th, 2002 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Retired Gumby Posts: 740 | As far as the question of keeping 'tables', there aren't any tables in the cheats text, it's just text formatting. If you cut and paste it into most html editors, they'll automatically keep it formatted for you. (I know for a fact that this works in M$ word, I don't know for certain about other editors since word is the only wysiwyg editor I have (and that's only there because it was preinstalled).) ----- At the end of the day, you're left with a bent fork & a pissed off rhino. |
Posted at 11:55 on September 18th, 2002 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Admin Reborn Gumby Posts: 11097 | The left frame doesn't work in Mozilla because of the relative size of the images. I had the same problem with my site's old design (one of the reasons I changed it) ----- Now you see the violence inherent in the system! |
Posted at 03:25 on September 19th, 2002 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Prof Gumby Posts: 432 | Cypherswipe/mr Creosote: thanks about the mozilla tip, I was working on that, but completely forgot about it. Cypherswipe: I'm trying to get those texts into this format: http://penguides.gooddays.org/cheatbin/WORMS2~1.html I use ACEhtml 4.0, which isn't WYSIWYG. I did use M$ word for a few pages, but it turns out that it uses about 100% more (longer, incomprehensibly sloppy) code than ACEhtml, so I remade those pages. ----- If it ain't broken, you're not trying hard enough. |
Posted at 04:46 on September 19th, 2002 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Admin Reborn Gumby Posts: 11097 | Just one more question: Why these strange file names? That looks as if you ran them through Windows (probably with spaces and all that crap) and then through DOS (gettin the all uppercase and shortening them in this strange way). Why not use normal names? ----- Now you see the violence inherent in the system! |
Posted at 13:56 on September 19th, 2002 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Retired Gumby Posts: 740 | You'll have to change your scripts if you want me to see that page, everytime I try to get to it it just bounces me back to the main page (http://penguides.gooddays.org). M$ is infamous for adding a lot of worthless code. Do you have mozilla or netscape? Have you tried their built in editors? I know they're wysiwyg, but I don't know if they add a lot of crap code or not. MC- Maybe that's something acehtml does? ----- At the end of the day, you're left with a bent fork & a pissed off rhino. |
Posted at 14:17 on September 19th, 2002 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Retired Gumby Posts: 740 | Alright, I fired up IE and navigated to the worms2 page manually. I see that what you're trying to do is take formatted text and put it INto tables (not the other way around, which is what it sounded like you wanted). I just tried mozilla's editor, and while you can't just wrap a table around it in one step, you can highlight a line of text and then drag it into a table or cell. I did this page in just a few minutes- http://entopan.marhost.com/battle_beasts.html Also, mozilla does not add a bunch of crap like M$ does. {btw That anti right click script is utterly useless. It has no effect in mozilla and all I have to do in IE is hit the context menu button on the keyboard (rioght between the windows key and right ctrl). Just thought you'd like to know .} ----- At the end of the day, you're left with a bent fork & a pissed off rhino. |
Posted at 14:28 on September 19th, 2002 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Admin Reborn Gumby Posts: 11097 | Quote: Also, mozilla does not add a bunch of crap like M$ does. Yes, these empty table cells are really useful And if it really took you more than 30 seconds to make that page, the editor you used is.... crap. In a pure text editor, you can do something like that in 10 seconds. And if you save the empty table structure into a seperate file, you can always open it and paste the contents in in no time. Edited by Mr Creosote at 16:31 on September, 19th 2002 ----- Now you see the violence inherent in the system! |
Posted at 17:50 on September 19th, 2002 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Retired Gumby Posts: 964 | Quote: And if it really took you more than 30 seconds to make that page, the editor you used is.... crap. So far, I used the Mozilla Composer once for creating a html page (several other times to paste text from web sites). It could be quite useful for pages that don't contain much more than text (the formatting is slightly faster than doing it by hand). Also, you can access the source code directly to correct unnecessary/wrong code the Composer put there. Altogether, the code it produces is still cleaner than I expected. |
Posted at 18:02 on September 19th, 2002 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Retired Gumby Posts: 740 | Personally I've never used an editor to do an html page, I much prefer to do it manually. That's why the only editors I have are ones I got unintentionally like M$ (preinstalled) and mozilla (came with the browser). ----- At the end of the day, you're left with a bent fork & a pissed off rhino. |
Posted at 18:12 on September 19th, 2002 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Retired Gumby Posts: 964 | I create my web pages by typing the code, too, because it's more exact and less fussy after all. For my very fisrt attempts some years ago, I used the old Netscape Composer, but I switched to notepad quickly. Therefore, I'm not interested in any other editors either. I wouldn't use them anyway. |
Posted at 05:28 on September 23rd, 2002 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Prof Gumby Posts: 432 | Mr Creosote: those filenames came from editing my pages in Winfile, an in-built windows file editor that's too old to recognise names with more than eight characters. (C:windowswinfile) I kept them because of the reduced typing work. Typing riseof~1.txt is a lot shorter than typing rise_of_the_triad.txt. Cypherswipe: I can do the drag-thing with acehtml, but that gets kinda annoying if you have to rewrite so many pages. A table with <10 fields is easy, but if they get bigger, it still amounts to a lot of time. Tapuak: I will check those two composers. ----- If it ain't broken, you're not trying hard enough. |