| Posted at 11:27 on January 28th, 2004 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Prof Gumby Posts: 336 | For this purpose maybe. 256bit AES is being rolled out at speed as the replacement for 3DES in VPN hardware & software clients. |
| Posted at 11:08 on January 28th, 2004 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
 Admin Reborn Gumby Posts: 11142 | Quote: Posted by fretz at 18:42 on January, 28th 2004: Something tells me this encryption wouldn't be used, because it has to be something which is possible to crack for this purpose This has just got MUCH harder. With the AES Encryption standard. Key breaking has been forced into taking a giant leap backwards. AES PDF Here(273K)  ----- Now you see the violence inherent in the system! |
| Posted at 10:42 on January 28th, 2004 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Prof Gumby Posts: 336 | Quote: Posted by Mr Creosote at 10:25 on January, 27th 2004: 'solving the cryptographic riddle' This has just got MUCH harder. With the AES Encryption standard. Key breaking has been forced into taking a giant leap backwards. AES PDF Here(273K) Quote: turn on common sense for all users Agreed. As with most problems related to computers, the biggest problem is always the human element. People will expect thes things to start wiping their arses for them soon. |
| Posted at 04:02 on January 27th, 2004 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Admin Reborn Gumby Posts: 11142 | Well, I'm convinced there is only one way to get rid off spam. It's the same method which'd also help against virii and trojans: turn on common sense for all users  If endless offers of Viagra and to 'enlarge your rod' wouldn't translate into some sort of financial benefit for the spammer, they wouldn't be sent out...----- Now you see the violence inherent in the system! |
| Posted at 02:58 on January 27th, 2004 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
 Member Retired Gumby Posts: 964 | Quote: Mmmh, how would big mailing list be impacted by this? It would probably take hours to send... Quote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't 'solving the cryptographic riddle' be highly dependent on the CPU power of the host machine? Yes, it certainly would depend on the CPU. Moreover, what spammer would be dumb enough to use a server/OS/whatever that supports such features?  And how is Microsoft itself going to send their spam in the future? |
| Posted at 02:25 on January 27th, 2004 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Admin Reborn Gumby Posts: 11142 | Ok, so let's assume this would work and that Microsoft agrees to 'open standards' (by whatever definition). Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't 'solving the cryptographic riddle' be highly dependent on the CPU power of the host machine? Organized spammers are bound to have the latest hardware, so in order to have them feel any effect, it'd have to be quite a 'tough' riddle. I wonder how and if an old or semi-old computer used by a normal person (non-spammer) could cope with this... ----- Now you see the violence inherent in the system! |
| Posted at 16:42 on January 25th, 2004 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Prof Gumby Posts: 336 | I have no idea how its supposed to work, but this sentance, oh my god, this sentance is just too much to bear!...... Quote: But, he said, for such a scheme to be all-encompassing, there would have to be some provision for open standards, so that it is not proprietary to Microsoft. HAHAHAH!!! Microsoft and Open Standards....in the same sentance, not propriety, HAHAHAHAH!!!! Cant take any more HAHAHAHAH!!!! help me, i cant breath |
| Posted at 14:59 on January 25th, 2004 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Admin Reborn Gumby Posts: 11142 | Yes, I understood what it's supposed to do, but I'm wondering how it's supposed to work... ----- Now you see the violence inherent in the system! |
| Posted at 14:35 on January 25th, 2004 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
 Member Dr Gumby Posts: 267 | Yes, but if (I read it correctly) you were to send a lot of mails to alot of people it would take a lot longer to send it. Mmmh, how would big mailing list be impacted by this? ----- Lets make this a beefy place |
| Posted at 12:24 on January 25th, 2004 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Admin Reborn Gumby Posts: 11142 | Eh? How's that going to work? If I have someone's e-mail address... I can send him e-mail. Not? ----- Now you see the violence inherent in the system! |
| Posted at 10:29 on January 25th, 2004 | Quote | Edit | Delete | |
Member Prof Gumby Posts: 336 | http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/3324883.stm Quote: "The basic idea is that we are trying to shift the equation to make it possible and necessary for a sender to 'pay' for e-mail," explained Ted Wobber of the Microsoft Research group (MSR). Go take a running jump Ted. |